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Look, you may not know it yet, but you want one of these.

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It's time to spread the gospel of the minivan,

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because there's way too many car buyers out there

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who are too vain to consider the Swiss Army knife of vehicles

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when this is the best class of vehicle out there.

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And let's start with the sliding door, which I just opened.

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You may notice it has an enormous rectangular opening,

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which is very easy to get in and out of.

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This is a thing that no other class of vehicle

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seems to offer, because I don't know why.

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And you know what else is really cool about sliding doors?

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Little kids can't slam 'em into other cars.

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This thing just moved out from the car by only about six inches.

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So if you're parked next to another car,

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you don't have to worry about your kids doing something silly.

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You know what else is cool about having a powered sliding door
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A lot of minivans -

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I have to find the mark, it's here somewhere.

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It's right there.

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A lot of minivans like this one.

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You can just do this.

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Just give it two kicks and it closes the door.

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So if you're carrying a whole bunch of stuff

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like, say you're walking up to the car,

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so long as you've got your key in your pocket, you can just be like,

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"hey, car," boop boop, and it opens the dooooor.

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You can't do that if you don't have

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an electronic actuator to open the door for you.

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But here you can and you may notice.

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Okay, let's take a look in here.

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Again, super easy to get in and out of.

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Most minivans like this one

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offer you the ability to slide the seat forward and back.

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This one even gives a ridiculous range of motion.

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Lookit-

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Look at that! You can't even see me!

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This is just where my legs are.

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But, let's put the seat somewhere a little more reasonable.

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Right?

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Driver's seat is set up for me to drive the thing.

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I've got plenty of room back here, both headroom and otherwise.

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And let's take a look at the cargo area.

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By the way, I'm running out of time,

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so apologies for using my camera's terrible

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autofocus, but notice I've left the left side door open.

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It's not sticking out from the car hardly at all.

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In fact, let me open the right side door,

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which I will do again without using my hands.

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Oh, look at that.

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The door just opened.

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But let's take a look at the cargo area, because this is where

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minivans really shine.

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I forgot where the button is.

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I have the rear seats disappeared.

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That is extra important for a couple of reasons,
but I want you to notice

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how low this load floor is.

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It is so easy to get stuff in and out of a minivan,

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because the load floor is incredibly low down.

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And look at how much space there - you want trunk space?

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There's your trunk space.

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We got trunk space for days here.

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I can - I can almost lay down with the middle row seats where they are.

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This is an enormous trunk.

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But what if you have to carry more people with you?

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Well, here's the thing, right?

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Here's the thing.

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Now you're going to learn about the pit.

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Because where are the third row seats?

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They're right here in the pit.

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And what happens is you put them up.

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Oh, that was loud.

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And now

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the load floor is barely off the ground.

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And this is the thing which I feel like not enough

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people know about minivans: because of this,

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when you have the second row seats up.

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Sorry, the third row seats up.

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Even with all of the seats in place, this is an enormous trunk.

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It's not very deep, but it's incredibly tall.

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So if you have this thing loaded up with seven people

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and all of their luggage, you can just keep stacking their luggage up.

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You can put, gosh, if you had like carry on bags,

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you could probably fit seven of them back here quite easily.

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That's the beauty of the pit.

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If I don't know how well you can see it from the camera, but

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it's hanging underneath the back of the car

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and it is.

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It's just... my foot's way down there.

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My foot is on the floor.

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It's - the pit is amazing!

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Now here's where things get even better, right?

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Watch this.

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I'm going to get in the third row.

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Now remember, this seat was set up for me to sit behind myself comfortably.

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Because of the captain's chairs, I can very easily just back myself into the third row.

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And look at that!

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I have still a couple inches of legroom, so me

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sitting behind myself driving had a couple inches of legroom

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and now me sitting behind myself, sitting behind myself,

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I still have a couple inches of legroom.

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I can put my head all the way back.

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I still have headroom,

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and the floor is low enough that my knees aren't up in my chest

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like they are in many three row vehicles.

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This is a third row which can actually accommodate

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adults comfortably, even big adults like me.

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I am nearly six feet tall and growing

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in other dimensions right now, unfortunately, but

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this is an actual third row

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that you can actually fit adults into.

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And when you have captain's chairs, as I showed,

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you can get back here super easily.

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But if you had a minivan

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with a bench seat now, they're not all going to be like this.

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But I do want to show with the Sienna,

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I had this all the way back just so you could see me.

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But the other thing with this party trick is when you fold the seat,

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the bottom cushion can move up and then

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slam that up against the front passenger seat.

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The other seat does this as well, but now it's very easy

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to get into the third row like that.

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So if you had a Sienna with a bench in the middle.

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I don't know offhand if that bench folds 60/40,

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like if the two sides move independently.

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I don't remember, but it can do this.

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You can get in the third row very easily.

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Personally though, I think in minivans

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when you have the option to have captain's chairs,

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you might as well take it, because no matter which row

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you try to fit three adults across, it's gonna be a little tight.

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But if you have to do that, it won't be as tight in a vehicle

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where there is a bench in the third row just because,

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sorry, there is a bench in the second row

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just because in the third row, the sides of the vehicle

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are coming in a little bit to accommodate

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the hardware for the rear wheels.

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The third row bench is not quite as wide

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as the second row bench, but just wanted to throw that out there.

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But yeah, you know, the other thing with this car

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and this crazy sliding range

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it's going to be hard for me to move...

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Like you can.

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You can have tons of legroom in the third row if you want it.

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So long as someone small is sitting up here.

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Yeah.
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these windows are very small.

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That's just for styling, though.

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I don't know why they did that, but that's - that's what they did.

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And that's what it's like.

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Oh yeah, and also there is a loop you can pull down here

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which will let you collapse and slide the seat forward.

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So those in third row don't need to do that reach around that I just did - I just forgot this was there.

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Right.

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And I should show just because Toyota

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engineered a pretty good mechanism for this.

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When you want to fold the third row you literally just do this.

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You yank on this thing,

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and then they just fall into the floor like that.

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Now they don't like - they kind of need some weight on them.

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They have, they're spring loaded a little bit, and they kind of

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want to pop up to make it easier to lift them back up.

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But then you also have these flaps here

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to make the floor

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truly flat.

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Pretty neat.

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I'm packing up so I don't have my mic on,

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but I'm sure my dad would love me to show you

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his very dad-coded solution for making the cargo floor

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even flatter, which was one of these office chair

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roller protector things which happens to fit this vehicle pretty well.

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Very dad-coded, but it works great.

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And when it comes to the front seat,

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it is a remarkably normal car driving experience

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because minivans are not unnecessarily

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lifted off the ground to make you feel superior.

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Now, look, I understand this is all subjective.

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I'm making this video simply because I think car buying

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people do not think very hard about their needs.

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And I am trying to embrace

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or I'm trying to get more people to embrace the Midwestern mindset

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of "think through your needs before you make a purchase,"

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because a lot of people

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are not buying minivans these days, and they're buying

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three row crossovers, which try their best to pretend to be a minivan.

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For instance, Toyota sells a vehicle on this same platform called the Grand Highlander,

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and I know tons of people are buying them

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because you see them all over the place.

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But if you actually compare the Grand Highlander and the Sienna,

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you're going to discover this is the better vehicle

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in almost every way.

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Here's some numbers that I saved for you.

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Remember the awesomeness of the pit? That gives this thing

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33.5 cubic feet of cargo room behind the third row,

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the Grand Highlander,

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which is a vehicle on the outside

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which is slightly bigger than this thing,

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only has 20.6 cubic feet behind the third row.

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So a smaller vehicle (slightly) but a smaller vehicle

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has more than 50% more cargo room

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behind the third row, which I will remind you, is a third row

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which can accommodate adults comfortably.

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Behind the second row of seats. The Grand Highlander only has 57.9 cubic feet of cargo room,

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whereas this thing has 75.2.

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That's a lot more.

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or I guess if we have all the seats collapsed

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or folded or whatever,
this has 101 cubic feet of cargo room versus 97.5.

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The Grand Highlander is a lot closer to the Sienna,

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I think, because of the fact that the second row seats don't.

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So if you're looking at a different minivan

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where the second row seats are removable, or they

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fold into the floor like the

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Voyager, whatever

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Chrysler is calling their van now, not Voyager, Pacifica.

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That's it.

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They're killing the Voyager - anyway.

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If you get [gross mouth noise]

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if you get a minivan
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row seat, you're going to have even more cargo room than that.

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But still, this thing has more cargo room behind the front row,

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and the second row collapsed forward as much as it can

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than the Grand Highlander.

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So why are people buying the Grand Highlander?

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Because they can't get over themselves

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and don't want to be seen driving a minivan.

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I recognize this is subjective,

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but there are exactly two things in my mind

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the Grand Highlander does better than the Sienna.

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First, towing capacity, but again, barely.

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This, despite being a minivan and a hybrid drivetrain, can tow 3,500 pounds.

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Some versions of the Grand Highlander can tow 5000,

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which is more, but it's not that much more and 3,500 pounds,

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while it's not a huge tow rating by any means,

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it's nothing to sneeze at either.

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So minivans, even hybrid minivans like this one, are much more capable than many people seem to think they are.

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the Grand Highlander does better than this is ground clearance.

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But here I am, being that frustrating midwesterner.

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Do you actually need any more ground clearance than a minivan?

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Because most of you out there don't.

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I have never in my life been in a situation

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where I needed more ground clearance than a minivan could offer.

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Now, granted, I don't go off-roading or anything recreational like that,

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but I don't just limit myself to public roads

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or not public roads, but paved roads.

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I have taken minivans on gravel roads

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and off the beaten path plenty of times.

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Unless you're doing trails and stuff like that,

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you probably don't actually need any more ground clearance than a minivan can offer,

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and your kids are going to appreciate having a vehicle

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which is lower to the ground because it's easier to get in and out of,

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and your elderly relatives are also going

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to appreciate having a vehicle which is lower to the ground,

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because it's easier to get in and out of.

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Everything about a minivan

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is better than a three row crossover,

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and the only reason people do not buy them

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is because they don't want to be seen in a minivan.

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And I am telling you, you need to get over that

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because life is so much better when you stop caring about what

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other people think, and you care about your needs

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and how best to meet them.

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This three row minivan is getting 34 miles per gallon over its life.

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Its EPA rating is 35 combined, so it's missing it by just a hair.

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But still, 34 miles per gallon is incredible for a vehicle this big.

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My first car was a Honda Civic.

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It was a coupe, even.

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That small car was rated for 36 miles per gallon on the highway.

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But if memory serves only 25 in the city,

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and I would say on average I got maybe 28 out of that thing

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unless I was on a long road trip.

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So the fact that this much bigger, much more capable vehicle,

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which can carry seven adults in reasonable

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comfort and six adults in complete comfort,

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is more fuel efficient than my tiny coupe is remarkable.

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That's why it's - it's awesome!

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But I don't want another car with an internal combustion engine.

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I am over them.

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So as much as I think this is the pinnacle of minivans,

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I would not purchase this.

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What I would purchase in a heartbeat is if somebody at Hyundai/Kia

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decided to put the E-GMP drivetrain in the Carnival.

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I would buy that tomorrow, but actually fitting in a battery pack

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into the architecture of a minivan is fairly difficult.

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So I understand why that hasn't happened yet.

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And I do know about the Volkswagen ID buzz.

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I was initially very excited about that car, and I kind of still am.

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I think most people

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speaking of things that people don't think about with their needs,

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the ID buzz is being maligned

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because it doesn't have that great of a range

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by today's electric car standards,

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but by my electric car standards, it's got plenty.

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It's got more than plenty, and road
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than in my car, but honestly, not that much more difficult.

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So everybody out there who's writing articles about the ID buzz

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saying that like, oh, it can't do the classic road -

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Oh, the lights just went off.

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Well, see, this is why it's Connextras.

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Turn the lights back on, please.

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Thank you.

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They're on a motion sensor.

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Anybody who's writing articles that are like

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the ID buzz is not actually good at road tripping or whatever.

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I mean,

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we can argue about that, but

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the ID buzz is I have been in one.

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It's actually bigger than I think many people realize.

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It's about as wide as a minivan like this, but it's really tall.

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It's really tall.

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Anyway, I would love an electric Kia Carnival

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if they can make that happen.

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But if you are not like me and are happy to keep using gasoline,

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you should probably want a car which doesn't use more gasoline

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than it needs to because gasoline costs money.

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So maybe you should be looking at hybrid drivetrains.

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And if you think this car has a very complicated drivetrain,

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you should check out that video of mine
which I made on the main channel,

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talking about hybrid cars

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and how nobody seems to understand the point of hybrid cars.

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And I can tell that because

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everybody has wild opinions about them.

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But anyway, you should embrace the minivan

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if you have the need for a large ish vehicle.

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If you have to haul, if you have a big enough family to haul around

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more than two kids or three kids if you want, whatever.

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If you have the need for a larger vehicle,

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you should be looking at a minivan.

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Now, I do know that as of late,

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these have not been as crashworthy as some of the other cars.

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And if that's something that you are concerned about, I understand.

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But I also think there's a reasonable argument to be made

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that minivans are less likely to get into collisions

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just because they're minivans.

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I was going to say the worst thing about driving

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a minivan is other drivers, because what happens

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routinely when I'm on a road trip in this thing with my parents

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is I'll be cruising along at keeping up

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with highway speeds, and then I go to pass somebody

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because they're not keeping up.

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And when they realize they're being passed by a minivan,

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oh, suddenly they hightail it and don't let me pass them.k

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That's the most annoying thing about driving a minivan.

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It's other drivers.

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Otherwise you really should be looking at a minivan.

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They are the Swiss Army knife of vehicles.

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They have sliding doors which are easy to get in and out of,

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which your kids can't bang into other cars,

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which are often power assisted.

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I think in the US market, I'm not sure

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there are minivans for sale to have manual sliding doors

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except for like commercial variants.

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They're all powered now.

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They're just great.

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They're great vehicles.

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If I had a need for one, I would be getting a minivan.

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And honestly, like I said, if there were a fully electric minivan,

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I would probably daily drive it because these vehicles are awesome.

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And anybody who doesn't think that is - they just can't get over them.

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Anyway, that's all.

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Enjoy.